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=== Progress of FINAL version and Schedule===
[http://dickydick.xs4all.nl/dtn/potato/potato_eaters_4.html Latest version from Dicky! - 9 November]<br>
[http://dickydick.xs4all.nl/dtn/potato/potato_eaters_3.html Latest version from Dicky! - 8 November]<br>
[http://dickydick.xs4all.nl/dtn/potato/potato_eaters_2.html Latest version from Dicky! - 7 November]<br>
'''Week 1 - Finish the framework (13 November)''' <br>
- Dicky works on it and Tim, Rabiaa, Daniel and Melanie add our comments to the wiki in the Feedback Secion<br>
'''Week 2 - Finish implementing internal feedback (20 November)'''<br>
- We discuss and collate all our internal feedback( Tim, Rabiaa, Daniel and Melanie), Dicky implement them to have an internal COOL version done by 20 November<br>
'''Week 3 - First external feedback (27 November)'''<br>
- We give people access to the site and get feedback towards the middle of week to incorporate that at the end of the week<br>
'''Week 4 - Technical mastery (3 December)'''<br>
- Prepare the load balancing, launch page, everything to be able to send it out.<br>
'''Week 5 - All is away!'''<br>
We launch the experience to world!!! & Run like hell
=== Action list ===
=== Action list ===
Dicky: Wiki page <font color="#006633">done</font><br>
Tim:  Send CD with graphics,sound to Dicky, or attach zip to this page. <font color="#006633">done</font><br>
Tim:  Construct movie with lamp light. Moving up/down/left/rigth slowly. <font color="#006633">done</font><br>
Daniel/Tim: Add changes to wiki regarding interaction rules, chosen effects etc. <font color="#006633">done</font><br>
Dicky: Skeleton<font color="#006633"> done</font><br>
Rabiaa: Add sound interaction.<font color="#006633">done</font><br>
All: Review [http://dickydick.xs4all.nl/dtn/potato/potato_eaters_2.html version1] <font color="#006633"> done</font><br>
Tim: Mail through text positions<font color="#006633"> done</font><br>
Dicky: Incorporate feedback<font color="#cc0000"> pending</font><br>
Melanie: Add English texts (new page?) <font color="#cc0000"> pending</font><br>
Melanie: Edit texts down to shorter versions<font color="#006633"> done</font> <br>
Tim: Can you make new (detailed) versions of the dots in trace the lines, and the next scenes<font color="#cc0000"> pending</font><br>
Rabiaa: Sound Up the levels (CD on Tuesday morning)<font color="#cc0000"> pending</font><br>
===Feedback Version 1===
====Trace the Lines====
because this is such an important part of the experience. This is the
moment to get the user from the fast internet-world into a meditative, inner world mood, and you benefit from that in the whole experience.
I think the atmosphere can and must be far more mysterious....!


Dicky: Wiki page<br>
these are my ideas on how to do that, but of course tim and yourself are the experts:  
Tim:  Send CD with graphics,sound to Dicky, or attach zip to this page.<br>
 
Tim:  Construct movie with lamp light. Moving up/down/left/rigth slowly.<br>
the dots should not have edges, more oval shape, with unclear outlines
Daniel/Tim: Add changes to wiki regarding interaction rules, chosen effects etc..<br>
they can be less well visible sometimes not at all, you see just a few dots lightning up; moves must be slower, so there's no flickering neither in the background nor in
Dicky: Skeleton<br>
dots, just slight and smooth changes in the visibility, everything rrrealllyy sslllllllooooowww.
I think to literally have to follow a line, is too static. You see only a few dots, and when you've reached these, other ones start to show. there can be more coincidence,
spaces between dots can vary, sometimes you have to go back a little because you missed part of the line (because it just wasn't there before)
 
I like the slowness of the mouse!
 
It's nice that some dots go out of the picture, but most of the time I think they must get invisible before they've reached the corners of the picture. Like a candle you just
blew out, maybe leaving a slight impression of some smoke or shadow even.
 
color of flame should fit little bit more with background color, both more brownish I think, that's warmer and more mysterious, but please consult tim.


=== Schedule table ===
=== Schedule table ===
'''Museum presenation 9 or 10 November!'''
'''Week 1 - Finish the framework (13 November)''' <br>
- Dicky works on it and Tim, Rabiaa, Daniel and Melanie add our comments to the wiki in the Feedback Secion<br>
'''Week 2 - Finish implementing internal feedback (20 November)'''<br>
- We discuss and collate all our internal feedback( Tim, Rabiaa, Daniel and Melanie), Dicky implement them to have an internal COOL version done by 20 November<br>
'''Week 3 - First external feedback (27 November)'''<br>
- We give people access to the site and get feedback towards the middle of week to incorporate that at the end of the week<br>
'''Week 4 - Technical mastery (3 December)'''<br>
- Prepare the load balancing, launch page, everything to be able to send it out.<br>
'''Week 5 - All is away!'''<br>
We launch the experience to world!!!


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| (tim) send gfx CD <br> (tim) start making interaction rules || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || (dicky) skeleton ||
| (tim) send gfx CD <br> (tim) start making interaction rules || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; ||
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| &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || (dicky) skeleton with interaction rules ||
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| &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || (dicky,tim) first testing demo
| &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || (dicky) skeleton
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| 1-Nov || 2-Nov || 3-Nov || 4-Nov || 5-Nov || '''6-Nov''' || '''7-Nov'''
| 1-Nov || 2-Nov || 3-Nov || 4-Nov || 5-Nov || '''6-Nov''' || '''7-Nov'''
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| &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; ||
| &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || first testing demo ||
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=== Timeline storybook ===
=== Process and Resources ===


[[Original storyboard]]
[[Original storyboard]] <br>
[[Texts]]
 
Download graphics via new pages in heading table
[[Van Gogh's texts]]<br>
 
Download graphics via new pages in heading table <br>
 
[[Photo reports meeting 2 november]]<br>
 
'''Sounds'''
Ground layer - can be looped -> create atmosphere <br>
Action layer - results of specific actions<br>
Melody layer - works certain themes return<br>
[[Potato Eaters Sounds]]<br>
[http://homeserver.eu.archive.org/~daniel/VanGogh/PotatoEaters/Sounds/ Sound Uploads]
<br>
 
===Potato Eater Sequence===
{| border=1
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| || [[1: Intro]] || [[2: trace the lines]] || [[3: light the lamp]] || [[4: 5th person]] || [[5: place the hands]] || [[6: rub through]] || [[7: portraits]]
| || [[1: Intro]] || [[2: trace the lines]] [[2.2: trace the lines]] || [[3: light the lamp]] || [[4: 5th person]] || [[5: place the hands]] || [[6: rub through]] || [[7: portraits]]
|-
| '''Movies:''' || [http://dickydick.xs4all.nl/dtn/potato/intro_moeder.html intro_moeder.swf] || [http://dickydick.xs4all.nl/dtn/potato/trailing_light_2.html trailing_light_2.swf] || [http://dickydick.xs4all.nl/dtn/potato/lightningeff.html lightningeff.swf] || [http://dickydick.xs4all.nl/dtn/potato/simonsays.html simonsays.swf] || || ||
|-
|-
| '''effects''' || Slow fade effects|| trace lines effect <br> light trail effect <br> build up images scene 2 above interaction field <br> letters text shading in || play with three lighting effects <br> starlight (through window)/candlelight(in middle group people/oil lamp light (from position oillamp in later morphs) <br> object is to play with intensity of each light source until optimum is found  || follow the notes effect <br> letterstext shading in || pick up hand painting from <br> light trail effect <br> build up images scene 6 above interaction field <br> letters text shading in || &nbsp; || Effects not yet fully crystalised  <br> Portrait dissolve effect??  <br>Portrait choose effect??  <br>letters text shading in  
| '''effects''' || Slow fade effects|| trace lines effect <br> light trail effect <br> build up images scene 2 above interaction field <br> letters text shading in || play with three lighting effects <br> starlight (through window)/candlelight(in middle group people/oil lamp light (from position oillamp in later morphs) <br> object is to play with intensity of each light source until optimum is found  || follow the sounds effect <br> letterstext shading in <br> build hands visual effect|| move hand sketch effect <br>disolve hand sketch into painting effect <br> build up images scene 6 above interaction field <br> letters text shading in || Effects not yet fully crystalised|| Effects not yet fully crystalised  <br> Portrait dissolve effect??  <br>Portrait choose effect??  <br>letters text shading in  
|-
|-
| '''graphics''' || Title graphics <br> van gogh logo <br> oil lamp movie <br> sampled cursor||morph (pic201-210) <br>Placeholer candle <br>placeholder stars <br> placeholder oillamp|| morph (pic301-310) || morph (pic401-410) || morph (pic501-510) <br> Inset details of hands choose three to correspond with hand in morph || morph (pic601-610) || morph (pic701-710)  <br>Insert portraits as
| '''graphics''' || Title graphics <br> van gogh logo <br> oil lamp movie <br> sampled cursor||morph (pic201-210) <br>Placeholer candle <br>placeholder stars <br> placeholder oillamp|| morph (pic301-310) placeholder stars painting<br>placehoder candle painting<br>placeholder oillamp painting || morph (pic401-410) <br> heads identified in detail from morph visuals || morph (pic501-510) <br> Inset details of hands choose three to correspond with hand in morph || morph (pic601-610) || morph (pic701-710)  <br>Portrait visuals
|-
|-
| '''story bord reference''' || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp;  
| '''story bord reference''' || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp;  
|-
|-
| '''interaction rules''' || no interaction || user has to make every invisible light dot visible to complete scene <br> scene auto completes after period of inactivity ||user plays with slider bars to alter light intensity|| &nbsp; || &nbsp; || &nbsp; || to be decided
| '''interaction rules''' || no interaction || user has to make every invisible light dot visible to complete scene <br> scene auto completes after period of inactivity || (3 little pieces wobbly, 1 success point, lightness is calculated from movement, crossfading between icon, darkness triggers morph, lightning movie from beam to broad light) SOUND: 1 basis sound, 1 action sound happens on first click, user plays with slider bars to alter light intensity<br> scene auto completes after period of inactivity || (mimic sound melody, first you hear melody, and see visual indication , mimic it. morphs indepently of actions, simon says like)<br> scene auto completes after period of inactivity  || user discovers place for hand sketches, drags elastic objects to morphing picture (some wrong, some good) <br> scene auto completes after period of inactivity || divide painting into several areas, every little area can be rubbed through <br> scene auto completes after period of inactivity  || all pictures are on a sphere user grabs one and drags it into place, 1 success placement
|-
|-
| '''short description''' || Slow the user down into 1885 <br> Slow fades between title pages in order <br> slow fade into movie oil lamp <br> movie oil lamp fades into cursor flame || Discover the lines of the sketch and how they change with our actions<br> with small cursor as lamp, <br> follow the trail to discover more <br> reward is text and sound with succesful completion of scene|| with small cursor as lamp, <br>play with three lighting effects to discover dramatic oil lamp lighting|| &nbsp; || use hands at to place in morph and drop into place when found reward is text and sound|| discover the colour in the painting by rubbing through with oil lamp cursor effect rewarded by text build-up|| Using colour images of porttraits watch them disolve into the painting when you place them, and be rewarded with finale of music and text. Follow with a send this page to your friend and or sign up page.  
| '''short description''' || Slow the user down into 1885 <br> Slow fades between title pages in order <br> slow fade into movie oil lamp <br> movie oil lamp fades into cursor flame || Discover the lines of the sketch and how they change with our actions<br> with small cursor as lamp, <br> follow the trail to discover more <br> reward is text and sound with succesful completion of scene|| with small cursor as lamp, <br>play with three lighting effects to discover dramatic oil lamp lighting|| play a musical game by following an ever longer sequence of notes, lighting up one head on the basic morph. then follow this with the cursor<br> surprise effect is to introduce fifth character || to place hands in morph and drop into place when found reward is text and sound|| discover the colour in the painting by rubbing through with oil lamp cursor effect rewarded by text build-up|| Using colour images of porttraits watch them disolve into the painting when you place them, and be rewarded with finale of music and text. Follow with a send this page to your friend and or sign up page.  
|-
|-

Latest revision as of 13:10, 10 December 2004

Progress of FINAL version and Schedule

Latest version from Dicky! - 9 November
Latest version from Dicky! - 8 November
Latest version from Dicky! - 7 November

Week 1 - Finish the framework (13 November)
- Dicky works on it and Tim, Rabiaa, Daniel and Melanie add our comments to the wiki in the Feedback Secion
Week 2 - Finish implementing internal feedback (20 November)
- We discuss and collate all our internal feedback( Tim, Rabiaa, Daniel and Melanie), Dicky implement them to have an internal COOL version done by 20 November
Week 3 - First external feedback (27 November)
- We give people access to the site and get feedback towards the middle of week to incorporate that at the end of the week
Week 4 - Technical mastery (3 December)
- Prepare the load balancing, launch page, everything to be able to send it out.
Week 5 - All is away!
We launch the experience to world!!! & Run like hell

Action list

Dicky: Wiki page done
Tim: Send CD with graphics,sound to Dicky, or attach zip to this page. done
Tim: Construct movie with lamp light. Moving up/down/left/rigth slowly. done
Daniel/Tim: Add changes to wiki regarding interaction rules, chosen effects etc. done
Dicky: Skeleton done
Rabiaa: Add sound interaction.done
All: Review version1 done
Tim: Mail through text positions done
Dicky: Incorporate feedback pending
Melanie: Add English texts (new page?) pending
Melanie: Edit texts down to shorter versions done
Tim: Can you make new (detailed) versions of the dots in trace the lines, and the next scenes pending
Rabiaa: Sound Up the levels (CD on Tuesday morning) pending

Feedback Version 1

Trace the Lines

because this is such an important part of the experience. This is the moment to get the user from the fast internet-world into a meditative, inner world mood, and you benefit from that in the whole experience.

I think the atmosphere can and must be far more mysterious....!

these are my ideas on how to do that, but of course tim and yourself are the experts:

the dots should not have edges, more oval shape, with unclear outlines they can be less well visible sometimes not at all, you see just a few dots lightning up; moves must be slower, so there's no flickering neither in the background nor in dots, just slight and smooth changes in the visibility, everything rrrealllyy sslllllllooooowww. I think to literally have to follow a line, is too static. You see only a few dots, and when you've reached these, other ones start to show. there can be more coincidence, spaces between dots can vary, sometimes you have to go back a little because you missed part of the line (because it just wasn't there before)

I like the slowness of the mouse!

It's nice that some dots go out of the picture, but most of the time I think they must get invisible before they've reached the corners of the picture. Like a candle you just blew out, maybe leaving a slight impression of some smoke or shadow even.

color of flame should fit little bit more with background color, both more brownish I think, that's warmer and more mysterious, but please consult tim.

Schedule table

Museum presenation 9 or 10 November!

Week 1 - Finish the framework (13 November)
- Dicky works on it and Tim, Rabiaa, Daniel and Melanie add our comments to the wiki in the Feedback Secion
Week 2 - Finish implementing internal feedback (20 November)
- We discuss and collate all our internal feedback( Tim, Rabiaa, Daniel and Melanie), Dicky implement them to have an internal COOL version done by 20 November
Week 3 - First external feedback (27 November)
- We give people access to the site and get feedback towards the middle of week to incorporate that at the end of the week
Week 4 - Technical mastery (3 December)
- Prepare the load balancing, launch page, everything to be able to send it out.
Week 5 - All is away!
We launch the experience to world!!!


    6-Oct 7-Oct 8-Oct 9-Oct 10-Oct
    Initial meeting       (dicky) wiki setup
11-Oct 12-Oct 13-Oct 14-Oct 15-Oct 16-Oct 17-Oct
(tim) send gfx CD
(tim) start making interaction rules
           
18-Oct 19-Oct 20-Oct 21-Oct 22-Oct 23-Oct 24-Oct
             
25-Oct 26-Oct 27-Oct 28-Oct 29-Oct 30-Oct 31-Oct
            (dicky) skeleton
1-Nov 2-Nov 3-Nov 4-Nov 5-Nov 6-Nov 7-Nov
            first testing demo

Process and Resources

Original storyboard

Van Gogh's texts

Download graphics via new pages in heading table

Photo reports meeting 2 november

Sounds Ground layer - can be looped -> create atmosphere
Action layer - results of specific actions
Melody layer - works certain themes return
Potato Eaters Sounds
Sound Uploads

Potato Eater Sequence

1: Intro 2: trace the lines 2.2: trace the lines 3: light the lamp 4: 5th person 5: place the hands 6: rub through 7: portraits
Movies: intro_moeder.swf trailing_light_2.swf lightningeff.swf simonsays.swf
effects Slow fade effects trace lines effect
light trail effect
build up images scene 2 above interaction field
letters text shading in
play with three lighting effects
starlight (through window)/candlelight(in middle group people/oil lamp light (from position oillamp in later morphs)
object is to play with intensity of each light source until optimum is found
follow the sounds effect
letterstext shading in
build hands visual effect
move hand sketch effect
disolve hand sketch into painting effect
build up images scene 6 above interaction field
letters text shading in
Effects not yet fully crystalised Effects not yet fully crystalised
Portrait dissolve effect??
Portrait choose effect??
letters text shading in
graphics Title graphics
van gogh logo
oil lamp movie
sampled cursor
morph (pic201-210)
Placeholer candle
placeholder stars
placeholder oillamp
morph (pic301-310) placeholder stars painting
placehoder candle painting
placeholder oillamp painting
morph (pic401-410)
heads identified in detail from morph visuals
morph (pic501-510)
Inset details of hands choose three to correspond with hand in morph
morph (pic601-610) morph (pic701-710)
Portrait visuals
story bord reference              
interaction rules no interaction user has to make every invisible light dot visible to complete scene
scene auto completes after period of inactivity
(3 little pieces wobbly, 1 success point, lightness is calculated from movement, crossfading between icon, darkness triggers morph, lightning movie from beam to broad light) SOUND: 1 basis sound, 1 action sound happens on first click, user plays with slider bars to alter light intensity
scene auto completes after period of inactivity
(mimic sound melody, first you hear melody, and see visual indication , mimic it. morphs indepently of actions, simon says like)
scene auto completes after period of inactivity
user discovers place for hand sketches, drags elastic objects to morphing picture (some wrong, some good)
scene auto completes after period of inactivity
divide painting into several areas, every little area can be rubbed through
scene auto completes after period of inactivity
all pictures are on a sphere user grabs one and drags it into place, 1 success placement
short description Slow the user down into 1885
Slow fades between title pages in order
slow fade into movie oil lamp
movie oil lamp fades into cursor flame
Discover the lines of the sketch and how they change with our actions
with small cursor as lamp,
follow the trail to discover more
reward is text and sound with succesful completion of scene
with small cursor as lamp,
play with three lighting effects to discover dramatic oil lamp lighting
play a musical game by following an ever longer sequence of notes, lighting up one head on the basic morph. then follow this with the cursor
surprise effect is to introduce fifth character
to place hands in morph and drop into place when found reward is text and sound discover the colour in the painting by rubbing through with oil lamp cursor effect rewarded by text build-up Using colour images of porttraits watch them disolve into the painting when you place them, and be rewarded with finale of music and text. Follow with a send this page to your friend and or sign up page.